Glenn Diesen - Greater Eurasia Podcast
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Chas Freeman: Israel-Turkey Conflict Could Explode Into War
Israel's actions and evolution into an expansionist, outlaw state have transformed it from a strategic asset into a strategic liability for the United States, while simultaneously making enemies of formidable regional powers like Turkey and uniting global opposition through its brutal policies and disregard for international law.
What was discussed
Turkey-Israel rivalry over post-Assad Syria1:12
- Glenn Diesenassertion
Turkey and Israel are the main contenders for influence in post-Assad Syria, and Israel's attack on an airbase could escalate to war.
- Chas Freemanassertion
Israel views the disarmament and subjugation of Syria as a major strategic achievement, while Turkey has supplied Syria with military equipment including tanks.
- Chas Freemanopinion
Syria's consideration of joining a Pakistani-Saudi-Turkish entente is a clever diplomatic move designed to counter Israel.
Shift from religious ideology to national interest in Middle East4:39
- Chas Freemanassertion
National interests, not theology or ideology, now guide foreign policies in the Middle East, and the Shia-Sunni split is far less important.
- Chas Freemanspeculation
An Islamic state system transcending religious differences, similar to the Peace of Westphalia, is entirely possible in the Gulf.
Turkey's military capacity and unpredictability18:43
- Glenn Diesenopinion
Turkey is a formidable military power but has proven unpredictable and untrustworthy in past dealings with Russia and others.
- Chas Freemanassertion
History teaches not to mess with the Turks, and Israel is right to be concerned about facing a formidable opponent in Syria.
- Chas Freemanopinion
Turkish policy's erratic nature reflects strongman Erdogan, who is steady and predictable compared to Trump by most standards.
Israel's depleted military and tarnished reputation32:45
- Glenn Diesenassertion
Israel's IDF is profoundly overstretched and depleted, lacking the capacity to take on a massive country like Turkey.
- Chas Freemanopinion
Israel has no capacity to take on Turkey and much of the rhetoric is electoral, as 97% of Turks are happy to accept the enemy label. Israel's reputation is gravely tarnished; it is now a complete outlaw that has lost Western admiration and faces global opprobrium.
Internal divisions and crisis within Israel42:17
- Glenn Diesenassertion
Israel has profound internal problems and divisions that are hard to overcome, despite wars acting as a temporary unifier.
- Chas Freemanassertion
Israel is fissioning with acute divisions, net emigration, and an army crisis where reservists often don't report for duty.
- Chas Freemanopinion
Israel has no long-term survival strategy and faces doubts about its longevity, analogous to the Christian Crusader kingdoms.
Divorce between Zionism and global Judaism40:39
- Chas Freemanassertion
Zionism has evolved to advocate Jewish supremacy, which is anathema to most Western Jews, creating a divorce between Zionism and Judaism. Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel do not accept the state's existence or moral justification and refuse to defend it or join the army.
U.S.-Israel relationship as a strategic liability48:28
- Chas Freemanassertion
Israel is clearly a strategic liability for the U.S., serving as the source of instability in West Asia and repeatedly embroiling America in dangerous situations. Israel advocated a war that suckered the United States into it, then walked away, leaving the U.S. holding the bag.
U.S. economic warfare against Iran and global opposition50:00
- Chas Freemanopinion
Trump's announcement of all-out economic warfare and secondary sanctions against Iran is a gamble that will likely fail and unite global opposition.
- Chas Freemanassertion
Secondary sanctions are illegal under international law, and Russia and China will oppose this economic warfare, with many others likely joining them.
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