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8/12/26: Major Wisconsin Elections, Trump National Emergency Before Midterms, Zohran Targets Wealthy NYers
Across the episode, Krystal and Saagar (with guests Brian Reisinger and Andrew Bard Epstein) keep returning to the idea that 'electability' fear—stoked variously by Republican spending, national media culture-war framing, and Democratic establishment-aligned money like AIPAC—determines whether left-populist candidates survive primaries even when their underlying economic message polls well, leaving the outcome of this insurgent wave still undetermined until the general election. They also trace a parallel thread of powerful actors—Trump, wealthy New York homeowners, and Amazon—using legal, regulatory, and rhetorical maneuvers to shield themselves from accountability while publicly attacking others for the same behavior, from Trump's own history of mortgage practices mirroring his accusations against Lisa Cook, to his flirtation with an elections emergency, to wealthy litigants fighting Mamdani's pied-à-terre tax.
What was discussed
Wisconsin governor primary polling miss6:16
- Krystal/Saagarassertion
Polling badly overestimated Hong's support; the race was called for Crowley by under a percentage point
- David Crowleyclip
Recounts a prayer-guided decision with his wife to re-enter the race after initially declining
- Francesca Hongclip
Defends her past tweet by saying her views can evolve without directly disavowing the statement
- Krystal/Saagaropinion
Hong's rehearsed, non-committal answer on Thanksgiving was worse than the original tweet and revived electability anxieties
National left figures skipped Wisconsin24:10
- Saagarspeculation
Sanders and AOC avoided Wisconsin because they feared, not doubted, that their support could get Hong elected
- Ken Klippenstein (leaked memo, per hosts)clip
Republicans reportedly feared Hong as a sleeper candidate who could rally independents via data-center opposition
Rural voters and GOP's opening in Wisconsin25:24
- Brian Reisingeropinion
Hong's Madison-centric, culturally extreme candidacy squandered an opening to tap working-class economic populism
- Saagaropinion
Rural Wisconsin voters generally oppose data centers and are squeezed by fertilizer and diesel prices, a problem for Republicans this fall
- Brian Reisingerassertion
Rural America has lost roughly 45,000 farms per year for a century, producing deep economic decline independent of national indicators
Kansas Senate race tightens31:12
- Krystalassertion
Reports an internal Democratic poll showing Marshall and Hamilton in a near statistical tie in normally safe-red Kansas
- Brian Reisingeropinion
The tight Kansas numbers reflect a tough national midterm environment and will hinge on which side owns economic messaging
Minnesota Senate primary blowout38:28
- Krystal/Saagarassertion
Flanagan won by about 20 points despite late polls showing Craig briefly ahead. Craig received AIPAC-organized fundraising help and tens of millions in dark money from Center Forward whose funding source is undisclosed
Minnesota House primary: Matt Little wins39:42
- Krystal/Saagarassertion
Little's win matches internal May polling despite millions spent by opponents' PACs afterward
- Krystalopinion
Groups that take AIPAC money can't avoid being associated with AIPAC just by routing funds through other PAC names
Mike Lindell loses Minnesota GOP primary44:09
Mike Lindell reportedly lost the Minnesota Republican gubernatorial primary but is refusing to concede, having won roughly a third of primary voters despite stepping back from Lindell TV to focus on the campaign.
Trump floats national emergency over elections45:40
- Wayne Allen Rootclip
Urges Trump to declare a national emergency to impose voting restrictions unilaterally within a month
- Donald Trumpclip
Responds noncommittally that 'stranger things have happened,' declining to rule out the idea
- Krystalopinion
Trump's refusal to dismiss the idea, plus past remarks about nationalizing voting, suggests he is seriously considering it
- Ryan/Saagarspeculation
Such a declaration would mainly target competitive states and could backfire by further discouraging disillusioned Republican voters from turning out
ProPublica report on Trump's own mortgage practices52:09
- ProPublica (per hosts)clip
Records show Trump declared two neighboring Palm Beach homes as his principal residence weeks apart while a real estate contact says both were rentals he never lived in
- Krystalopinion
This is a textbook example of exactly what Trump accuses Lisa Cook of doing, apparently done to secure a lower interest rate
- Saagaropinion
Banks that lent to Trump in the '90s deserve little sympathy, and the Cook case is a raw exertion of political will
Mamdani's pied-à-terre tax under attack59:14
- Donald Trumpclip
Claims the pied-à-terre tax will cause wealthy flight and 'financial and social ruin' for New York, calling it a radical-left policy alongside congestion pricing
- Andrew Bard Epsteinassertion
The lawsuit only challenges the tax's confusing rollout, not its legality, and the tax closes a real fiscal gap while funding Mamdani's affordability agenda
- Krystal/Saagaropinion
It's hypocritical that the lawyer leading the anti-tax fight, Randy Mastro, owns a multi-million dollar underused second home himself
- Andrew Bard Epsteinassertion
The tax rollout has also surfaced potential fraud by people falsely claiming Florida residency to dodge New York income tax
Mamdani's approval rises; Amazon accountability bill1:11:11
- Andrew Bard Epsteinopinion
Rising approval reflects visible delivery on campaign promises like child care, rent freeze, and bus speed more than ideological alignment
- Krystal/Saagaropinion
Other cities are experiencing 'mayor envy' as New Yorkers see basic government functions actually get fixed
- Andrew Bard Epsteinassertion
Amazon uses subcontractors to escape accountability for drivers whose uniforms, routes and hours it directly controls
- Andrew Bard Epsteinspeculation
Amazon's lobbying against the bill, reportedly including a campaign led by Jessica Schumer, will likely focus on the City Council rather than the mayor
Post-mortem: why insurgents split results1:20:55
- Andrew Bard Epsteinopinion
Electability fear remains the establishment's most effective weapon against the left, but this cycle's mixed results don't disprove ongoing insurgent momentum
- Krystalopinion
Hong's rehearsed non-answer on the Thanksgiving tweet, more than the original tweet, is what revived voters' electability anxieties
- Andrew Bard Epsteinspeculation
Whether the insurgent movement is truly winning can't be assessed until primary winners prove they can beat Republicans in the general election
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